3月3日，Luke-Jr 亲自解释香港共识不保证扩容

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http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitc ... 03/03#l1457029482.0

18:25 Blazed Luke-Jr you work for Blockstream?
18:25 Luke-Jr Blazed: I'm an independent contractor.
18:25 zveda if core and blockstream are separate entities, why does president of blockstream go and promise to chinese miners that core will release code for a HF in 2017 if they promise to only run core code? how can he even promise that?
18:25 Blazed Blockstream needs to hire me ASAP
18:25 Luke-Jr zveda: that isn't even true
18:25 zveda Luke-Jr: what's not true?
18:25 Blazed I need some of those millions
18:25 zveda we all read the letter that adam back signed
18:25 Luke-Jr also, Adam/Blockstream is on the other side of that agreement. They agreed not to run Classic.
18:26 Luke-Jr zveda: nobody agreed Core would release code
18:26 Luke-Jr Blazed: apply
18:26 Blazed lol
18:26 zveda Luke-Jr: in the letter it is agreed that there will be HF code no?
18:26 zveda in core
18:26 Luke-Jr zveda: Cory Fields, Matt Corallo, Peter Todd, and I will produce HF code, yes.
18:27 zveda and it will be merged into core ?
18:27 Luke-Jr tbd
18:27 zveda but adam back promised ?
18:27 Blazed Probably depends on if SW fixes the issues
18:28 grbs heh what is "Developer Evangelist" ?
18:28 sturles zveda: Adam Back doens't control Bitcoin.
18:28 zveda he signed as the president of blockstream
18:28 Luke-Jr zveda: Adam promised not to run Classic
18:28 Blazed That is his title?
18:28 sturles Unless the hard fork contain real bugfixes, I doubt there will be one.
18:28 zveda the miners took that as a concession from blockstream and core
18:28 zveda Blazed: yes
18:28 Blazed a lot of people sign things with their respective titles
18:29 Blazed If he was not president of BS he likely would not have been invited?
18:29 Luke-Jr zveda: no, we made it perfectly clear that nobody could represent Core
18:29 joecool i'd consider jeff pretty competent, sata is never the thing that takes down my systems
18:29 zveda Luke-Jr: who cares what adam back runs? the chinese miners promised not to run classic or any non-core code in exchange for hard fork in the roadmap, no?
18:29 joecool lol
18:29 Luke-Jr zveda: in exchange for the four of us writing HF code
18:30 Luke-Jr here, read it: https://medium.com/@bitcoinround ... sensus-266d475a61ff
18:30 zveda but whether it is merged is tbd lol. I am pretty sure that's not what the chinese miners are expecting
18:30 zveda I did read it
18:30 Luke-Jr "The Bitcoin Core contributors present at the Bitcoin Roundtable will have an implementation of such a hard-fork available as a recommendation to Bitcoin Core within three months after the release of SegWit."
18:31 Luke-Jr "…, and will only be adopted with broad support across the entire Bitcoin community."
18:31 zveda lemme guess, overwhelming consensuys
18:31 sturles Of course, otherwise there will be two coins, like "Classic" are trying to create.
18:32 Blazed Why does Classic and its followers just not fork now and have their own coin?
18:32 Luke-Jr and the part Adam, the exchanges, and the miners agreed to: "We will run a SegWit release in production by the time such a hard-fork is released in a version of Bitcoin Core. We will only run Bitcoin Core-compatible consensus systems, eventually containing both SegWit and the hard-fork, in production, for the foreseeable future."
18:32 helo Blazed: they could do better by just starting their own coin
18:33 Blazed Maybe
18:33 sturles I hope the hard fork code will contain a change of pow algorithm.
18:34 Luke-Jr sturles: might be a good idea, but let's see how things develop between now and then


Blazed: Luke-Jr 你为Blockstream工作吗？Luke-Jr: 我是个独立的合同工
zveda: 如果core和Blockstream是两个不同的机构，为什么Blockstream总裁参加会议，并向中国矿工承诺，如果他们只运行core软件的话，将发布一个2017年硬分叉的代码？为什么他能做出这个承诺？
Luke-Jr: 你说的是错的
zveda: 错在哪儿？
zveda: 我们都看到了，Adam Back 签署了
Luke-Jr: 而且，Adam/Blockstream是合同的乙方。他们同意不运行Classic
Luke-Jr: 没人同意Core会发布代码
Zveda: 声明中不是说core会发布硬分叉代码吗？
Luke-Jr: Cory Fields, Matt Corallo, Peter Todd 和我会写硬分叉代码，这没错
zveda: 那么会被融入core？
Luke-Jr: 待定
zveda: 但Adam Back不是保证了吗？他以Blockstream总裁的身份签名的
Luke-Jr: Adam 是保证不运行Classic
zveda: 矿工都认为那是一个Blockstream和core的让步
Luke-Jr: 不对，我们说的完全清楚了：没人可以代表core
zveda: 谁关心Adam干什么？中国矿工承诺不运行非core的版本，用于换取硬分叉，不是么？
Luke-Jr: 是换取我们四个给他们写硬分叉代码，你再好好看看声明
zveda: 但代码是否能融入待定。我相信这不是中国矿工所期待的
Luke-Jr: “在隔离见证发布后的三个月之内，参与香港会议的比特币core代码提交者给出一个有关硬分叉的提议，提交给比特币core”
Luke-Jr: “这个提议只有在获得整个社区普遍支持的情况下才会被采用。”
zveda: 让我猜猜，是绝大多数共识
Luke-Jr: 而Adam, 交易所和矿工同意的是：“我们将在硬分叉代码出现在core软件后在实战中运行隔离见证。在可见的未来，我们只在实战中运行core兼容的共识系统，最终包含隔离见证和硬分叉”
sturles: 我希望硬分叉包含一个修改POW算法的变化
Luke-Jr: 也许是个好主意，不过我们看情况再说